Honest review. Pros: Elastic waist band for comfortable fit Dual cago pockets on each side. One velcro closed and other open top behind the lip fold over pocket. Top of leg mag, flashlight, knife pocket (accessory pocket). Top button closure but with sturdy zippered fly Internal kneepad slot (works decently). So far after months of wear, stiching has held together. (normal wear so far not running, jumping or sliding yet) Cons: knee pads print quite a bit and are only single layer knee reinforcement. I would prefer the accessory front pocket to be on the side, inline with the leg seam, since it will press on anything in your front right pocket. So if carry a phone in the right front pocket, your screen could get damaged. The front pocket openings are located a little far forward making it tricky to retrieve items but can also be seen as a pro since things will not slide out easily. And looking at them now, the top point of the pocket is at the end of the elastic, so this may be the reason for placement. My biggest complaint right now is there is a huge flaw with either: A: the companies sizing chart on amazon to the actual size of the pants is backwards (stated waist 1st then length 2nd) and I have been getting the opposite B: The company is making them backwards at the facility (lenth before waist vs waist before lenth) C: The people packaging the pants have it backwards. Or D: A mixture of these issues. I hope Proper can fix this issue quickly. Like previously stated, on their listing, the 1st number is waist and the 2nd number is length. On the pants I have been receiving the Lenth is the 1st number and Waist is the 2nd (my best guess) since the labels could have been put on the wrong pants size or manufacturer defect. (as seen in the photos) The one consistsnt thing has been when ordering is the waist has stayed one size where as the length would change (which is opposite to my needs). A 36/38 should be 36in waist, 38 long, A 38/36 should be 38in waist, 36 long. I have ordered several pants recently. 36/36, 38/36 and 40/36 to have different waist fits for different purposes. The waist has been the same each time but the length keeps changing. This issue (not only for my self but for other customers, the company and amazon) should be addressed so both reputations can be redeemed and not have constant returns for items received that do not match what was ordered. I really like these pants and have worn the one pair I have with correct size for months and wanted to get a few more pairs. Sadly, I am hesitant to order again just to have the wrong size shipped, have them not fit and have to do another return. At my size, there is no real way to play the "numbers game" to get the right fit. Until this has been remedied, I dont want to re-order and waste packing material or employee time to repackage for resale. Proper, could you please find out where this issue is coming from, inform me and you may want to address this issue on the listing so others know they will get the right size if they order from you in the future, incase others are dealing with the same issue and have decided to go with another brand. Customers: So, if your waist and length measurements are same, go ahead and buy since at least you will get the right fit and enjoy your pants.
